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vegasgoods
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 Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: I have 12 days of guide data. Do I need to keep wirns run |
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| I have wirns working fine now. My replays have the full 12 days of channel guide. Do I have to keep the computer running with wirns loaded or can I just log in once a week and update the guide? |
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Space
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JeepGeek
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I'm not sure why Space linked to the thread about the service not shutting down.... I guess so you would know you have the option of not using WiRNS now if you choose.
If you choose the option of sticking with WiRNS for whatever reason, the answer to your question is basically yes - but you may not want to do it that way.
I haven't figured out for sure exactly how the scheduling works (I say this because some options I have set in my config don't seem to match reality) but:
1) you can schedule in WiRNS when it will update its guide... so you can schedule it to happen when your computer is on. Or you can manually initiate it if you prefer.
2) you can schedule when the RTVs will do their net connect (it accomplishes this by turning off the automatic net connects and initiating them from WiRNS itself). Or, you can manually initiate it (from RTV or computer) if you prefer.
So as long as your computer is on at a time when these activities are scheduled, frequently enough to have enough guide data present to suit your needs, you should be fine.
However, some of us still prefer a daily net connect to more frequently catch any schedule changes that occur. |
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weenden
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| you dont need it now there not shutting the server down |
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TakeTheActive
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| Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: ReplayTV DOES NOT Load 12 Days of Data on each Net Connect |
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| vegasgoods wrote: | I have wirns working fine now. My replays have the full 12 days of channel guide. Do I have to keep the computer running with wirns loaded or can I just log in once a week and update the guide?
| JeepGeek wrote: | ...If you choose the option of sticking with WiRNS for whatever reason, the answer to your question is basically yes - but you may not want to do it that way.
I haven't figured out for sure exactly how the scheduling works (I say this because some options I have set in my config don't seem to match reality) but... |
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I don't remember the details exactly, since I read it YEARS ago, but, the ReplayTV DOES NOT load / re-load 12 days of data on each Net Connect - more like Days 1, 2, 4, 8 (guessing for example purposes), unless the Channel Guide is empty. Doesn't matter if the source is DNNA or WiRNS. So, if data a week or so out originally loaded changes a day or two before your ReplayTV is scheduled to record a show, you get the changes. If you're loading data ONCE every 7 days, you stand the chance of having incorrect data / gaps.
You have to either SEARCH the Archives, or wait for a Guru, for more specific details.
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JeepGeek
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:00 am Post subject: Re: ReplayTV DOES NOT Load 12 Days of Data on each Net Conne |
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| TakeTheActive wrote: |
I don't remember the details exactly, since I read it YEARS ago, but, the ReplayTV DOES NOT load / re-load 12 days of data on each Net Connect - more like Days 1, 2, 4, 8 (guessing for example purposes), unless the Channel Guide is empty. |
This may be true in some sense but I don't think in the general case that the unit only actually requests specific days of data. WiRNS logs the number of shows served for each day of guide data during a net connect, and my log nearly always shows it serving about the same amount of data for each day - without regular gaps. Occasionally I'll see a couple days with 0 shows served, but not with great frequency and not with any noticeable pattern.
It may be that there is some mechanism for only loading data for days that have changed or are not already loaded. It also may be a true statement for modem-only units, which are more sensitive to the amount of data they'd have to transfer, since it'd be a tradeoff on guide accuracy. |
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TakeTheActive
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:32 am Post subject: Re: ReplayTV DOES NOT Load 12 Days of Data on each Net Conne |
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| JeepGeek wrote: | | TakeTheActive wrote: |
I don't remember the details exactly, since I read it YEARS ago, but, the ReplayTV DOES NOT load / re-load 12 days of data on each Net Connect - more like Days 1, 2, 4, 8 (guessing for example purposes), unless the Channel Guide is empty. |
This may be true in some sense but I don't think in the general case that the unit only actually requests specific days of data. WiRNS logs the number of shows served for each day of guide data during a net connect, and my log nearly always shows it serving about the same amount of data for each day - without regular gaps... |
WiRNS downloads the number of consecutive days you tell it to - 3, 6, 9, 12, etc... What the ReplayTV takes from that download, or what the ReplayTV takes directly from DNNA, is what I'm talking about.
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engfant
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| Why shut it down ever? Servers/services are best when left alone. If you can install on a limp PC that isn't power crazy that would be best. |
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hdonzis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:08 am Post subject: Re: ReplayTV DOES NOT Load 12 Days of Data on each Net Conne |
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| JeepGeek wrote: | | This may be true in some sense but I don't think in the general case that the unit only actually requests specific days of data. |
Well you can read the TWIKI and see that the RTV DOES actually request specific days of data. However, it also has a mechanims in each day's request to indicitate what data it already has so as to not download day's data that it already has...
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JeepGeek
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| Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: ReplayTV DOES NOT Load 12 Days of Data on each Net Conne |
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| hdonzis wrote: | | JeepGeek wrote: | | This may be true in some sense but I don't think in the general case that the unit only actually requests specific days of data. |
Well you can read the TWIKI and see that the RTV DOES actually request specific days of data. However, it also has a mechanims in each day's request to indicitate what data it already has so as to not download day's data that it already has...
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I read that wiki entry... it is pretty old and maybe it pre-dates the 5k's which is why it mentions the 4k specifically. Is it true for 5k as well?
If I see the log entries from WiRNS that indicate it's serving up data for 8/1, 8/2, 8/3, 8/4 and so on for the next 14 days, doesn't that mean the RTV is requesting all those days? Each day's log entry represents a getcg2.pl request, right?
Just trying to mesh what I can see with what's really happening so that I understand it and don't spout misinformation. |
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hdonzis
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Yeah, that format hasn't changed since the original ShowStopper (except for them making it more URI appropriate as commented near the bottom). I don't think that they were really interested in having different formats for different model units. But, specifically, that info is appropriate for 5Ks as well, as is ALL the information in that TWIKI...
And, yes, you can see that the RTV asks for days in particular in the WiRNS log. When you see it requesting sequential days, it's either because you cleared the channel guide, or because you changed something about the video provider selected. The normal day order is pretty much what TTA indicated, being day 0 (today), 1 (tomorrow), 3, 7, and 12, for both 4Ks and 5Ks. Pre-4K units request day 0 (today), 1 (tomorrow), and day 8...
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