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Extra Special Good Will - no longer functional

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Extra Special Good Will - no longer functional Reply with quote

**UPDATE Extra Special Goodwill is dead (it depended on ReplayTV servers) **
** regular Goodwill works fine **
Below is for historical use..

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Thanks to Robert Eden, we have decided to add even more good will, for however long DNNA continues to operate their equipment, to allow people to get around the clock set problem that DNNA is currently having. If you follow the instructions for using the LaHo Good Will program: http://planetreplay.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=81285#81285 at the bottom of that post for network connected units, instead of using the LaHo DNS address use 52.20.175.80 instead. This will allow you to use DNNA for almost all of the net connect, but use LaHo for the clock set so that you can get through an entire net connect, especially after factory resetting your unit, or if you change your ZIP code...

In addition, beside correcting the DNNA clock set problem, this also correct the Zones download problem and software updates problem!!! So, after a factory reset, using the instructions for connecting to LaHo after a factory reset posted at the top of this very forum, but using the DNS address of 52.20.175.80 instead, you should now be able to get your unit completely setup, including all the Zones updated and your software completely updated as well!

Again, this service will only be usable as long as DNNA's equipment remains operational, it is based on the assumption that the only problem currently is that the clock set isn't working properly...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It *was* your idea Henry!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmeden wrote:
It *was* your idea Henry!


Yeah, but *you* made it happen!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheesh, get a room...!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:46 pm    Post subject: ReplayTV Cannot Contact Network... Reply with quote

Extra Special Good Will had been faithfully updating my 5XXX clocks for a couple of weeks (Thank You!) but tonight I noticed that the ABC Evening News RTV's Red Recording Light came on several seconds before the CBS Evening News RTV. When I checked the 411 Stats, the Last Successful Connection on the ABC RTV was 9/10 and the CBS RTV was 9/11.

When I try to manually connect, the ABC RTV hangs on "Connecting..." (After the current show my wife is watching finishes, I'll try the CBS RTV). Are the DNNA Servers gone? I would have expected the RTV to hang after 'Setting Clock...', but since I don't know how this really works, I came here to ask.

Both PING and TRACERT to 52.20.175.80 from my Vista Desktop PC are successful.

Thanks!

UPDATE: 243-Zones 7-Net Connect on the CBS RTV hung for 2 minutes on "Connecting..." before I pressed Stop.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try ping and tracert to production.replaytv.net and see what happens...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:24 pm    Post subject: The *END* of an Era... Reply with quote

Code:
C:\!Util\BAT>ping 52.20.175.80

Pinging 52.20.175.80 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 52.20.175.80:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms

C:\!Util\BAT>tracert 52.20.175.80

Tracing route to al1.percdata.com [52.20.175.80]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.252
  2     5 ms     4 ms     5 ms  lo0-100.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-326.verizon-gni.net [71.187
.159.1]
  3     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  T1-8-0-13.NWRKNJ-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
138.36]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  0.ae4.XL4.NYC1.ALTER.NET [140.222.226.37]
  6     8 ms     6 ms     6 ms  0.ae2.BR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.198]
  7    32 ms    12 ms    12 ms  63-235-40-53.dia.static.qwest.net [63.235.40.53]

  8    12 ms    13 ms    12 ms  dca2-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.36.10]
  9    14 ms    12 ms    12 ms  67.133.224.206
 10    19 ms    29 ms    41 ms  54.239.109.226
 11    15 ms    12 ms    13 ms  54.239.109.251
 12    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  205.251.245.246
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  al1.percdata.com [52.20.175.80]

Trace complete.

C:\!Util\BAT>ping replayTv.net

Pinging replayTv.net [198.207.204.119] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 198.207.204.119:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\!Util\BAT>ping production.replaytv.net

Pinging production.replaytv.net [64.124.80.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 64.124.80.9:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\!Util\BAT>tracert production.replaytv.net

Tracing route to production.replaytv.net [64.124.80.9]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.252
  2    30 ms     4 ms    43 ms  lo0-100.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-326.verizon-gni.net [71.187
.159.1]
  3     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  T1-8-0-13.NWRKNJ-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
138.36]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     8 ms     7 ms     6 ms  0.ae2.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET [140.222.229.93]
  6     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  204.255.169.2
  7     7 ms    15 ms     6 ms  ae8.cr1.lga5.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.26.161]
  8    23 ms    24 ms    24 ms  v12.ae29.cr1.ord2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.31.169
]
  9    67 ms    55 ms    55 ms  ae12.mpr1.den1.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.20.250]
 10    84 ms    95 ms    69 ms  ae5.cr1.sjc2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.25.53]
 11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\!Util\BAT>

Is it over?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry, will Extra Special goodwill work with the DNNA servers down?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The *END* of an Era... Reply with quote

TakeTheActive wrote:
Code:
C:\!Util\BAT>ping 52.20.175.80

Pinging 52.20.175.80 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=52
Reply from 52.20.175.80: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=52

Ping statistics for 52.20.175.80:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 14ms, Average = 13ms

C:\!Util\BAT>tracert 52.20.175.80

Tracing route to al1.percdata.com [52.20.175.80]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.252
  2     5 ms     4 ms     5 ms  lo0-100.NWRKNJ-VFTTP-326.verizon-gni.net [71.187
.159.1]
  3     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  T1-8-0-13.NWRKNJ-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.
138.36]
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  0.ae4.XL4.NYC1.ALTER.NET [140.222.226.37]
  6     8 ms     6 ms     6 ms  0.ae2.BR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.198]
  7    32 ms    12 ms    12 ms  63-235-40-53.dia.static.qwest.net [63.235.40.53]

  8    12 ms    13 ms    12 ms  dca2-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.36.10]
  9    14 ms    12 ms    12 ms  67.133.224.206
 10    19 ms    29 ms    41 ms  54.239.109.226
 11    15 ms    12 ms    13 ms  54.239.109.251
 12    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  205.251.245.246
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  al1.percdata.com [52.20.175.80]

Trace complete.


Why are you showing us the PercData server that we all know is still running?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmeden wrote:
Henry, will Extra Special goodwill work with the DNNA servers down?


Extra Special Good Will doesn't care anything about DNNA servers. However, the Replays certainly do! All Extra Special Good Will does is allow setting the ReplayTV clock. The rest of the Replay net connect is handled by DNNA. As I posted in my very first post:
hdonzis wrote:
This will allow you to use DNNA for almost all of the net connect, but use LaHo for the clock set so that you can get through an entire net connect, especially after factory resetting your unit, or if you change your ZIP code...

Again, this service will only be usable as long as DNNA's equipment remains operational, it is based on the assumption that the only problem currently is that the clock set isn't working properly...


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone see the point in keeping "Extra Special Goodwill" up and running now that replaytv.net has shut down?

"Extra Special Goodwill" It is a DNS service that mirrors the official ReplayTV.NET except for NTP hosts... and sending that to LaHo Goodwill.

I beleive with the DNNA servers down it's pointless.

Is anyone using it? If so, why?

(Normal LaHo goodwill will continue of course)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. the regular good will is all folks need. Thanks Robert
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:18 pm    Post subject: Extra Special Good Will Is No Longer Usable... Reply with quote

As I stated on 09/14/15, Extra Special Good Will just hangs on a Net Connect since the DNNA Servers went down on ~09/10/15.

I switched to regular Good Will and except for the one-time longer transfer on Zone 11 (IR Codes?), my clocks (and Net Connects) are just fine.

Does anyone, besides dear Henry, know the exact differences between the 2 Good Wills? I used ESGW solely to minimize PercData bandwidth, but, AFAICT, GW (after the initial connect and Zone 11 download) appears to operating the same as ESGW.

Without the DNNA Servers, no one can SUCCESSFULLY use ESGW anymore for a Net Connect so I can't see anyone even trying. From following the forums, I'll guess that only a half dozen of us were doing Manual Recordings - myself, Robman, and 1 fellow over on AVS for sure; guessing on maybe 3 others.

You, Rmeden, should see the IP activity - is there any?

Logically, anyone using it learned about it here on PlanetReplay, so a DISCONTINUED in the title of this thread with a post to switch to regular GW should take care of it, IMHO.

Thanks Rmeden

I'm so sad about Henry that just reading any ReplayTV forum is like salt in an open wound. I've had serious health problems since 2006, a few surgeries and even now need open heart surgery but out of the blue we lose Henry. I so enjoyed lurking and reading his posts almost daily and immediately noticed his absence. A few weeks ago, even when he was on vacation, he was still here daily posting...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi TTA, good to see some old timers still around. Yeah, I was doing the manual record thing thru the summer, and didn't even mess with the settings, so I wasn't even using LaHo Good Will. I knew that once we got closer to the fall and the new shows started that I would go be going the WiRNS route, and thankfully Henry was around to help me get going.

I did use Good Will once, but due to something I must have done earlier (Henry explained but I forget the details) when it reset my clocks, it set them to GMT! But it wasn't long after that I got WiRNS working, so it was all back to normal soon.

And now I've started using IVS for the first time, because I didn't know how to set up the router, but as I had to learn about that anyway, I took care of both.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:
...I was doing the manual record thing thru the summer, and didn't even mess with the settings, so I wasn't even using LaHo Good Will. I knew that once we got closer to the fall and the new shows started that I would go be going the WiRNS route, and thankfully Henry was around to help me get going...

Some time in August, I noticed the RED recording light on my CBS RTV coming on over a minute after my ABC RTV - both are located in the living room. The DNNA Servers were still up and Net Connects were successful BUT the time wasn't being reset and my clocks were drifting. I'm surprised that your RTVs were so stable - lucky you.

The Robman wrote:
...I did use Good Will once, but due to something I must have done earlier (Henry explained but I forget the details) when it reset my clocks, it set them to GMT! But it wasn't long after that I got WiRNS working, so it was all back to normal soon...

I remember following that conversation. IIRC, it had something to do with the fact that Good Will didn't know, or care about, your Zip Code. A new Activation from a Factory Reset, or a new image, needed to send a Zip Code to either DNNA or LaHo to correctly set your time zone.

The Robman wrote:
...And now I've started using IVS for the first time, because I didn't know how to set up the router, but as I had to learn about that anyway, I took care of both.

I'd always point folks to the STICKY on the Poopli Forum for setting up a router. There were 2 posts, the first Henry has the HTML saved on WiRNS.Com. Henry just took on SO MUCH responsibility for the ReplayTV community since the July 2011 'Warning Shot'... thumbsup
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my understanding:

DNNA used some RNS-PC servers (remember that near product?) for the time servers. Those servers went down well before the main DNNA servers, maybe even before guide data ended.

Extra Special Goodwill was just a DNS service that pointed the missing hosts to LaHo and everything else back to DNNA. So you would still get all the services except NTP from DNNA.

Goodwill used to be run on the main LaHo server, but is currently running on Henry's test instance (A virt at this office). Once that goes away, I'll point it back to the main LaHo server. (There's plenty of capacity left)

Goodwill itself is a special mode of the LaHo software. It is triggered by the ReplayTV serial number missing from the PercData database. When running in Goodwill mode, guide data calls simply return success instead of guide data. So basically, units get activated and time set, but no data.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TakeTheActive wrote:
Some time in August, I noticed the RED recording light on my CBS RTV coming on over a minute after my ABC RTV - both are located in the living room. The DNNA Servers were still up and Net Connects were successful BUT the time wasn't being reset and my clocks were drifting. I'm surprised that your RTVs were so stable - lucky you.

Oh, my clock was drifting too, it was going ahead which meant my manual records were starting too soon, so I just adjusted the start and end times by a minute.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmeden wrote:
Goodwill used to be run on the main LaHo server, but is currently running on Henry's test instance (A virt at this office). Once that goes away, I'll point it back to the main LaHo server. (There's plenty of capacity left)

Robert, do you have any idea how many Replay users there are, either connected via SD or LaHo?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little confused about good will. Is it still available? If so, what does it actually do? Is it a clock setter? What's the address?

After the demise of the DNNA guide, I haven't gotten a replacement yet. Been just doing manual records, which seem to mostly work fine.

On poopli, I can update my show list with no problem, but I can't send a show to anyone. IVS tests fail, and poopli's IVS test on my unit says "Can't connect to 24.5.31.226:29000 (timeout)". That IP is not even close to mine and I don't know how it got in there.

I keep the replay static on my network at 192.168.0.99 and port 29000. Since the guide went away, I have not changed my DNS fields from what they have been (same as all other devices) in my router.

Would good will help me in any way to fix this?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The extra special good will, that this thread was discussing, is no longer functional. It was a backdoor way to get to the DNNA servers, but as they have permanently gone down, this method no longer serves any purpose.

Good Will does everything except provide channel guides, it will set the clock and if necessary, it will activate the unit.

But the regular good will service is still available:
http://www.planetreplay.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16311

I'm not sure if it makes a difference if you use the Good Will IP (206.210.196.148) or the regular LaHo IP (207.58.129.219), maybe Robert can comment on that. I just tried connecting to both and then did a force net connect, and both worked for me.

I know you are using Mongo via a Mac, and I suspect that is part of the problem.

Reading some of your other posts, it doesn't sound like you have setup WiRNS yet and you haven't signed up for an account with Schedules Direct (or LaHo), is that true?

If so, you have 2 choices:
1. The easy option is to sign up with LaHo, which costs $21/6 months for 1 unit. Then all you have to do is select your channel provider on the Perc site and change the DNS IP address to 207.58.129.219, and you're good to go. (Follow the exact steps outlined on the Perc site, because I am summarizing).
2. The harder but cheaper option is to set up WiRNS and sign up with SD, which costs $25/year for unlimited units.

What is your current setup, and what option do you want to use going forward?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob,

Is that a typo? $12/6 months? I thought it was $21. Not sure I want to sign up as my wife now likes netflix and amazon prime. And I'm good as long as I can keep recording manually.

I think mongo is just a poopli updater which will test IVS and send shows. I did get IVS magic and WIRNS running on my PC, so I can take mongo out if it's an issue, but I'm not certain that it is. I never leave it running, I just open it occasionally to update poopli.

So in IVS magic, I do a rddns lookup and it says the lookup succeeded but could not contact the unit at the (wrong) IP I mentioned above.

Not sure I can do a force connect because it seems that no matter what I change in the network screen, it fails after "connecting..." or "verifying network..."

So is my only hope to get the service? If I try one of the IP's you provided above, do I put it in both DNS1 and DNS2?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry yes, the 1 and 2 must have got reversed, it's $21/6 months. If you have WiRNS set up, SD is the way to go and is dirt cheap at $25/year ($2/month).

Setting up IVSmagic is still on my "to do" list, so I can't help with that yet.

The only way that you will get a successful network connection is if you connect to something valid. If you don't yet have WiRNS set up properly, don't try that yet, go to the Good Will instead. Enter 206.210.196.148 in DSN1 and leave DSN2 blank.

Once you have that part working, check back in and if you want to tackle WiRNS next, I'll try to help with that.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! That fixed it! Got successful IVS test in mongo, which I'm pretty sure would happen from all other testers.

Only thing I noticed was if I went to 243zones and hit net connect, it didn't seem to do anything.

Does the clock set automatically? Also, this can activate a unit in case of a HD change, etc.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes to clock, yes to activate.

the way to force a true net connect is to try changing your zip code, but I would *NOT* recommend it because, as Perc doesn't know anything about your zip code, you will get an error code and you will lose your time zone, so all times with display in GMT.

How many Replays do you have, and is it worth $25/year to get channel guides on all of them?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Robman wrote:

I'm not sure if it makes a difference if you use the Good Will IP (206.210.196.148) or the regular LaHo IP (207.58.129.219), maybe Robert can comment on that. I just tried connecting to both and then did a force net connect, and both worked for me.
If your serial number is not known to LaHo/PercData, they should function the same.

I'm not sure how long the 206 server will be operational, but the 207 IP should be stable.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert, to avoid confusion then, should we just tell people to use the 207 IP as both the LaHo and Good Will IP address?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, probably just giving folks the 207 IP for goodwill is probably a good idea.

I've stopped the DNS server for for extra special goodwill. (which really was *less* special, since all we did was redirect DNS...)

I'll close this thread, since ESGW is history.
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